Hi

We know that TTCN is used for the test cases for the conformance tests as
per 34.123
Is TTCN also used for Interoperability and Field tests?
What is the coverage of each of these tests.
Where can I find the test specifications/GCF regulation for Field tests?

Thanks and Regards,
Jigna Shah

Hello!

The 3G UE conformance tests are specified in TTCN-2, you are right.
I guess that is what is standardized by ETSI/3GPP.

There is nothing prohibiting the development of Interoperability
and other types of tests using TTCN as well, but this maybe done
by individual companies as it may not be topic of standardized testing.

Development of Interoperability and other in-house tests using
TTCN would allow the re-use of the 3G test definitions (messages,
constraints/templates) etc in these types of tests as well. Using modular
TTCN, you can develop these tests as separate modules.

Then if you would like to use TTCN-3 to develop these types of
Interoperability and Fiedd tests, you could specify
'import from 3g_ue_test_module language "TTCN-2" all'
statement in your TTCN-3 module.

In this way, you would use existing 3G UE tests as TTCN-2 without
complex translation and you would be able develop your new tests
using TTCN-3. More details of this issue:
www.openttcn.com/Publications/Migration/

Vesa-Matti

> We know that TTCN is used for the test cases for the conformance tests
> as
> per 34.123
> Is TTCN also used for Interoperability and Field tests?
> What is the coverage of each of these tests.
> Where can I find the test specifications/GCF regulation for Field
> tests?
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Jigna Shah
>

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Hi,

It is considered in the future to cover also these areas, at the moment UE/MS manufactures are doing by them self the creation of TTCN test cases for these areas.

Test cases may originated from the official testing groups (?) like NVIOT, NOIOT, etc.

I.e. NVIOT is done only for CN, but it is very well applicable for UE's also and the coverage is generally complete. The is another group will take care of UE's (sorry, I do not remember the name), and they are deriving Test Cases from the other Groups and adapting for the specific action.

GCF is note taking care of Final Implementation, It does only for Functionality. The other groups are taking care for the remaining areas (IOT, Field Test etc.).

Best Regards,
Alberto Perez

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Hi

We know that TTCN is used for the test cases for the conformance tests as
per 34.123
Is TTCN also used for Interoperability and Field tests?
What is the coverage of each of these tests.
Where can I find the test specifications/GCF regulation for Field tests?

Thanks and Regards,
Jigna Shah

Thanks. This answers one of my questions.
What I was wondering further is that the way the conformance tests are
standardized in 34.123 -1 and prioritised by GCF, are field trials also
regulated by GCF. If yes, where could I possibly get the regulations from.

Regards,
Jigna Shah




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Hello!

The 3G UE conformance tests are specified in TTCN-2, you are right.
I guess that is what is standardized by ETSI/3GPP.

There is nothing prohibiting the development of Interoperability
and other types of tests using TTCN as well, but this maybe done
by individual companies as it may not be topic of standardized testing.

Development of Interoperability and other in-house tests using
TTCN would allow the re-use of the 3G test definitions (messages,
constraints/templates) etc in these types of tests as well. Using modular
TTCN, you can develop these tests as separate modules.

Then if you would like to use TTCN-3 to develop these types of
Interoperability and Fiedd tests, you could specify
'import from 3g_ue_test_module language "TTCN-2" all'
statement in your TTCN-3 module.

In this way, you would use existing 3G UE tests as TTCN-2 without
complex translation and you would be able develop your new tests
using TTCN-3. More details of this issue:
www.openttcn.com/Publications/Migration/

Vesa-Matti

> We know that TTCN is used for the test cases for the conformance tests
> as
> per 34.123
> Is TTCN also used for Interoperability and Field tests?
> What is the coverage of each of these tests.
> Where can I find the test specifications/GCF regulation for Field
> tests?
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Jigna Shah
>

--
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Jigna Shah

Please look first at 34.123-3. You may have already known about
www.3gpp.org/ftp/tsg_t/WG1_Test/TSGT1SIG/TTCN_delivery/

Regards

Shicheng

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Thanks. This answers one of my questions.
What I was wondering further is that the way the conformance tests are
standardized in 34.123 -1 and prioritised by GCF, are field trials also
regulated by GCF. If yes, where could I possibly get the regulations
from.

Regards,
Jigna Shah




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Hello!

The 3G UE conformance tests are specified in TTCN-2, you are right.
I guess that is what is standardized by ETSI/3GPP.

There is nothing prohibiting the development of Interoperability
and other types of tests using TTCN as well, but this maybe done
by individual companies as it may not be topic of standardized testing.

Development of Interoperability and other in-house tests using
TTCN would allow the re-use of the 3G test definitions (messages,
constraints/templates) etc in these types of tests as well. Using
modular
TTCN, you can develop these tests as separate modules.

Then if you would like to use TTCN-3 to develop these types of
Interoperability and Fiedd tests, you could specify
'import from 3g_ue_test_module language "TTCN-2" all'
statement in your TTCN-3 module.

In this way, you would use existing 3G UE tests as TTCN-2 without
complex translation and you would be able develop your new tests
using TTCN-3. More details of this issue:
www.openttcn.com/Publications/Migration/

Vesa-Matti

> We know that TTCN is used for the test cases for the conformance tests
> as
> per 34.123
> Is TTCN also used for Interoperability and Field tests?
> What is the coverage of each of these tests.
> Where can I find the test specifications/GCF regulation for Field
> tests?
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Jigna Shah
>

--
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Hi Shicheng,

Thanks.

I have already had a look at the release you are talking of. What I assumed
was that the ATSs in this zip were in TTCN but were based on 34.123-1,
which is for conformance testing only.
I am not sure if we can apply the same tests for the field tests.

I would repeat my question - Are the field tests (as Alberto Perez stated -
Functionality) specified by the GCF or any other body, and where could I
find them?

I am comfortable with the answer that the implementation of these can be
done in TTCN2 and also TTCN3 and some modules developed for
conformance(34.123) can also be reused.


Regards,
Jigna





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Please look first at 34.123-3. You may have already known about
www.3gpp.org/ftp/tsg_t/WG1_Test/TSGT1SIG/TTCN_delivery/

Regards

Shicheng

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Thanks. This answers one of my questions.
What I was wondering further is that the way the conformance tests are
standardized in 34.123 -1 and prioritised by GCF, are field trials also
regulated by GCF. If yes, where could I possibly get the regulations
from.

Regards,
Jigna Shah




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Hello!

The 3G UE conformance tests are specified in TTCN-2, you are right.
I guess that is what is standardized by ETSI/3GPP.

There is nothing prohibiting the development of Interoperability
and other types of tests using TTCN as well, but this maybe done
by individual companies as it may not be topic of standardized testing.

Development of Interoperability and other in-house tests using
TTCN would allow the re-use of the 3G test definitions (messages,
constraints/templates) etc in these types of tests as well. Using
modular
TTCN, you can develop these tests as separate modules.

Then if you would like to use TTCN-3 to develop these types of
Interoperability and Fiedd tests, you could specify
'import from 3g_ue_test_module language "TTCN-2" all'
statement in your TTCN-3 module.

In this way, you would use existing 3G UE tests as TTCN-2 without
complex translation and you would be able develop your new tests
using TTCN-3. More details of this issue:
www.openttcn.com/Publications/Migration/

Vesa-Matti

> We know that TTCN is used for the test cases for the conformance tests
> as
> per 34.123
> Is TTCN also used for Interoperability and Field tests?
> What is the coverage of each of these tests.
> Where can I find the test specifications/GCF regulation for Field
> tests?
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Jigna Shah
>

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Dear Jigna,

The tests in 34.123-1 are designed to run as a complete set. They are designed in such a way that manipulation of any parameters or dynamic behaviour is extremely difficult. This is not intentionally done to make changes to the suite difficult but because that is not the requirement for these test cases - they are there to check the conformance of UEs. If you want to use test cases for field trials, interoperability testing or even development testing then you need to either write them from scratch yourself, debug and modify the 3G delivery or get them from somewhere else.

Cheers

Steve Brunt
Technical Manager
Strategic Test Solutions

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Hi Shicheng,

Thanks.

I have already had a look at the release you are talking of. What I assumed
was that the ATSs in this zip were in TTCN but were based on 34.123-1,
which is for conformance testing only.
I am not sure if we can apply the same tests for the field tests.

I would repeat my question - Are the field tests (as Alberto Perez stated -
Functionality) specified by the GCF or any other body, and where could I
find them?

I am comfortable with the answer that the implementation of these can be
done in TTCN2 and also TTCN3 and some modules developed for
conformance(34.123) can also be reused.


Regards,
Jigna





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Thanks. This answers one of my questions.
What I was wondering further is that the way the conformance tests are
standardized in 34.123 -1 and prioritised by GCF, are field trials also
regulated by GCF. If yes, where could I possibly get the regulations
from.

Regards,
Jigna Shah




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Hello!

The 3G UE conformance tests are specified in TTCN-2, you are right.
I guess that is what is standardized by ETSI/3GPP.

There is nothing prohibiting the development of Interoperability
and other types of tests using TTCN as well, but this maybe done
by individual companies as it may not be topic of standardized testing.

Development of Interoperability and other in-house tests using
TTCN would allow the re-use of the 3G test definitions (messages,
constraints/templates) etc in these types of tests as well. Using
modular
TTCN, you can develop these tests as separate modules.

Then if you would like to use TTCN-3 to develop these types of
Interoperability and Fiedd tests, you could specify
'import from 3g_ue_test_module language "TTCN-2" all'
statement in your TTCN-3 module.

In this way, you would use existing 3G UE tests as TTCN-2 without
complex translation and you would be able develop your new tests
using TTCN-3. More details of this issue:
www.openttcn.com/Publications/Migration/

Vesa-Matti

> We know that TTCN is used for the test cases for the conformance tests
> as
> per 34.123
> Is TTCN also used for Interoperability and Field tests?
> What is the coverage of each of these tests.
> Where can I find the test specifications/GCF regulation for Field
> tests?
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Jigna Shah
>

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Hi,

This principle would work as a temporary transition from TTCN-2 to TTCN-3. It assumes that a developer would want to maintain both TTCN-2 modules and TTCN-3 modules. Surely a cleaner method would be to translate the entire TTCN-2 test suite to TTCN-3?

Cheers

Steve Brunt
Strategic Test Solutions

Hello!

The 3G UE conformance tests are specified in TTCN-2, you are right.
I guess that is what is standardized by ETSI/3GPP.

There is nothing prohibiting the development of Interoperability
and other types of tests using TTCN as well, but this maybe done
by individual companies as it may not be topic of standardized testing.

Development of Interoperability and other in-house tests using
TTCN would allow the re-use of the 3G test definitions (messages,
constraints/templates) etc in these types of tests as well. Using modular
TTCN, you can develop these tests as separate modules.

Then if you would like to use TTCN-3 to develop these types of
Interoperability and Fiedd tests, you could specify
'import from 3g_ue_test_module language "TTCN-2" all'
statement in your TTCN-3 module.

In this way, you would use existing 3G UE tests as TTCN-2 without
complex translation and you would be able develop your new tests
using TTCN-3. More details of this issue:
www.openttcn.com/Publications/Migration/

Vesa-Matti

> We know that TTCN is used for the test cases for the conformance tests
> as
> per 34.123
> Is TTCN also used for Interoperability and Field tests?
> What is the coverage of each of these tests.
> Where can I find the test specifications/GCF regulation for Field
> tests?
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Jigna Shah
>

--
Vesa-Matti Puro
Open Environment Software Oy
Laserkatu 6, FIN-53850 LAPPEENRANTA, Finland
Postal address: P.O. Box 6, FIN-53851 LAPPEENRANTA, Finland
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Yeah saw those

Anthony Gardiner
Managing Director
Strategic Test Solutions
City Gate East
Toll House Hill
Nottingham
NG1 5FS

Tel: 0044 (0) 115 9586600
Fax: 0044 (0) 115 9586633
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Hi,

This principle would work as a temporary transition from TTCN-2 to TTCN-3. It assumes that a developer would want to maintain both TTCN-2 modules and TTCN-3 modules. Surely a cleaner method would be to translate the entire TTCN-2 test suite to TTCN-3?

Cheers

Steve Brunt
Strategic Test Solutions

Hello!

The 3G UE conformance tests are specified in TTCN-2, you are right.
I guess that is what is standardized by ETSI/3GPP.

There is nothing prohibiting the development of Interoperability
and other types of tests using TTCN as well, but this maybe done
by individual companies as it may not be topic of standardized testing.

Development of Interoperability and other in-house tests using
TTCN would allow the re-use of the 3G test definitions (messages,
constraints/templates) etc in these types of tests as well. Using modular
TTCN, you can develop these tests as separate modules.

Then if you would like to use TTCN-3 to develop these types of
Interoperability and Fiedd tests, you could specify
'import from 3g_ue_test_module language "TTCN-2" all'
statement in your TTCN-3 module.

In this way, you would use existing 3G UE tests as TTCN-2 without
complex translation and you would be able develop your new tests
using TTCN-3. More details of this issue:
www.openttcn.com/Publications/Migration/

Vesa-Matti

> We know that TTCN is used for the test cases for the conformance tests
> as
> per 34.123
> Is TTCN also used for Interoperability and Field tests?
> What is the coverage of each of these tests.
> Where can I find the test specifications/GCF regulation for Field
> tests?
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Jigna Shah
>

--
Vesa-Matti Puro
Open Environment Software Oy
Laserkatu 6, FIN-53850 LAPPEENRANTA, Finland
Postal address: P.O. Box 6, FIN-53851 LAPPEENRANTA, Finland
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Hello Vesa-Matti et. al,

> Development of Interoperability and other in-house tests using
> TTCN would allow the re-use of the 3G test definitions (messages,
> constraints/templates) etc in these types of tests as well. Using modular
> TTCN, you can develop these tests as separate modules.

This is not an approach I would recommend to a user who is considering
TTCN2-3 migration. Apart from the fact that there are no defined semantics
for importing TTCN-2 types into a TTCN-3 module, there is also no
syntactical
support for using TTCN-2 constraints in TTCN-3 test cases.
This would have to be a proprietary tool solution, which obviously isn't in
the user's best interest when maintainability, portability and flexibility
is considered.

I'm not saying that existing TTCN-2 definitions cannot be reused, quite the
contrary: What you are mentioning, types and constraints, are the parts of
TTCN-2 that are easiest to translate into TTCN-3; In fact, it can be
automated, i.e done by a tool, and that is what a customer wants to do.
That way, he would end up with a standard-compliant test suite whose
contents
are supported by a variety of TTCN-3 tools, rather than a language mixture
with a questionable proprietary interpretation and not subject to
maintenance
by standardisation authorities.

> 'import from 3g_ue_test_module language "TTCN-2" all'

The "TTCN-2" attribute is not recognized in the TTCN-3 standard.

> In this way, you would use existing 3G UE tests as TTCN-2 without
> complex translation and you would be able develop your new tests
> using TTCN-3.

With the approach I proposed, the user would make the (non-complex
and automated) translation and get all the benefits of a modern and
living standard AND still obviously be able to develop his new tests
using TTCN-3.

> More details of this issue:
> www.openttcn.com/Publications/Migration/

In your presentation at this location I find a disturbing note, to
which I must protest:

"TTCN-3 and TTCN-2 are both different presentation formats of the
same language"

This is downright wrong! Full stop. Some concepts from TTCN-2 have
been adopted, but No, TTCN-3 is a new and quite different language.
I don't think I need to go over the arguments for this, as they ought
to be familiar to most parties on this list, but statements like the
above mentioned gives a misleading and thoroughly incorrect message
to the market.

Also, the following conclusion troubles me:

" => no need to translate back and forth, the same TTCN tool you
are using will seamlessly support both"

I am not aware of any vendor who supplies such a tool, but you are
welcome to prove me wrong on this.

With best regards and Season's greetings,
/Johan

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Hello!

The 3G UE conformance tests are specified in TTCN-2, you are right.
I guess that is what is standardized by ETSI/3GPP.

There is nothing prohibiting the development of Interoperability
and other types of tests using TTCN as well, but this maybe done
by individual companies as it may not be topic of standardized testing.

Development of Interoperability and other in-house tests using
TTCN would allow the re-use of the 3G test definitions (messages,
constraints/templates) etc in these types of tests as well. Using modular
TTCN, you can develop these tests as separate modules.

Then if you would like to use TTCN-3 to develop these types of
Interoperability and Fiedd tests, you could specify
'import from 3g_ue_test_module language "TTCN-2" all'
statement in your TTCN-3 module.

In this way, you would use existing 3G UE tests as TTCN-2 without
complex translation and you would be able develop your new tests
using TTCN-3. More details of this issue:
www.openttcn.com/Publications/Migration/

Vesa-Matti

> We know that TTCN is used for the test cases for the conformance tests
> as
> per 34.123
> Is TTCN also used for Interoperability and Field tests?
> What is the coverage of each of these tests.
> Where can I find the test specifications/GCF regulation for Field
> tests?
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Jigna Shah
>

--
Vesa-Matti Puro
Open Environment Software Oy
Laserkatu 6, FIN-53850 LAPPEENRANTA, Finland
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hi,

We have devloped a component called "Message studio"-graphical editor for
Message Sequence Charting (MSC). "Message Studio" is a feature rich, drag
and drop tool and some of the key
highlights are:

* Generation of standard TTCN3 scripts from graphical MSC
* Ability to generate 3rd party proprietary scripting language, if
desired
* Standalone/plug-in component
* Automatic sequence verification
* Platform independent

this tool will be useful for the genration of the TTCN3 test cases.

regards
sachin
HCL Technologies

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Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:03 PM
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Hi,

This principle would work as a temporary transition from TTCN-2 to TTCN-3.
It assumes that a developer would want to maintain both TTCN-2 modules and
TTCN-3 modules. Surely a cleaner method would be to translate the entire
TTCN-2 test suite to TTCN-3?

Cheers

Steve Brunt
Strategic Test Solutions

Hello!

The 3G UE conformance tests are specified in TTCN-2, you are right.
I guess that is what is standardized by ETSI/3GPP.

There is nothing prohibiting the development of Interoperability
and other types of tests using TTCN as well, but this maybe done
by individual companies as it may not be topic of standardized testing.

Development of Interoperability and other in-house tests using
TTCN would allow the re-use of the 3G test definitions (messages,
constraints/templates) etc in these types of tests as well. Using modular
TTCN, you can develop these tests as separate modules.

Then if you would like to use TTCN-3 to develop these types of
Interoperability and Fiedd tests, you could specify
'import from 3g_ue_test_module language "TTCN-2" all'
statement in your TTCN-3 module.

In this way, you would use existing 3G UE tests as TTCN-2 without
complex translation and you would be able develop your new tests
using TTCN-3. More details of this issue:
www.openttcn.com/Publications/Migration/

Vesa-Matti

> We know that TTCN is used for the test cases for the conformance tests
> as
> per 34.123
> Is TTCN also used for Interoperability and Field tests?
> What is the coverage of each of these tests.
> Where can I find the test specifications/GCF regulation for Field
> tests?
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Jigna Shah
>

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