Dear Vesa-Matti,
I can only support your view.
We now agreed within the maintenance STF to make not only an up-to-date
CR table, but also the CRs together with their revisions, and the
mock-up version for TTCN-3 available on the Web. However, it may take a
while as the ETSI Web pages are currently being reorganized.
Sorry that we cannot do better than this.
With best regards,
Ina.
Vesa-Matti Puro wrote:
> Dear Ina,
>
> I can make that note to the document immediately that there exists
> a CR about the matter, and that it is already accepted.
>
>
> The ETSI page says currently about CR 206:
>
> 206 Activate operation without mandatory assignment of result
> Mariusz Kupiec 2.2.1 Core Minor Technical
> Entered: 17 Dec 2003
> Status: entered review by team members
>
>
> So in that sense the error description about the use of activate
> still holds as there seems to be at least four different truths
> about he matter:
>
> 1. ETSI web-site saying that the CR 206 is in "entered review by team
> members" status == the published standard is the last info
>
> 2. Ina reports that the CR 206 is accepted == activate without
> assignment of the return value can be used
>
> 3. The published and current valid TTCN-3 standard says that
> active needs the assignment for its return value
>
> 4. Some ealier standard said another thing...
>
>
> The conclusion is that TTCN-3 users make mistakes because
> of mixing past and present standards, and made CRs, accepted
> CRs, and accepted and reported accptance of CRs by ETSI.
>
> Best regards,
> Vesa-Matti
>
>
> Ina Schieferdecker wrote:
>
>> Deare Vesa-Matti,
>>
>> indeed it is the CR 206 on "Activate operation without mandatory
>> assignment of result", which was accepted.
>>
>> This has lead to the addition of ActivateOp in behavior statements:
>>
>> A.1.6.7 Behaviour Statements
>> BehaviourStatements ::=
>> TestcaseInstance |
>> FunctionInstance |
>> ReturnStatement |
>> AltConstruct |
>> InterleavedConstruct |
>> LabelStatement |
>> GotoStatement |
>> RepeatStatement |
>> DeactivateStatement |
>> AltstepInstance |
>> ActivateOp
>>
>> Cheers, Ina.
>>
>>
>> Vesa-Matti Puro wrote:
>> > Dear Ina,
>> >
>> > Thank you for your comments.
>> >
>> > I agree that it is possible to have an execute & function call without
>> > binding their results to a variable.
>> >
>> > But when you say that it is possible to have an activate without
>> binding
>> > it results, do you refer to the current published standard, or some
>> CR?
>> > In the BNF of the ETSI ES 201 873-1 V 2.2.1 (2003-02) we have not
>> > spotted that kind of possiblity. Which BNF rules do you refer?
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Vesa-Matti
>> >
>> > Ina Schieferdecker wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dear Vesa,
>> >>
>> >> thank you for this interesting list - I just have one minor
>> comment: it
>> >> is allowed to use the activate without binding its result to a
>> >> defaulttype variable - like you can have an execute without
>> binding its
>> >> result to a verdicttype variable.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers, Ina.
>> >>
>> >> Vesa-Matti Puro wrote:
>> >> > Hello all TTCN-3 users!
>> >> >
>> >> > We have collected a list of most common errors we have found
>> >> > people are doing when they write TTCN-3 modules and made
>> >> > this information available in our website as HTML & PDF:
>> >> >
>> >> >
www.openttcn.com/Sections/News/Top5_TTCN3_Errors/
>> >> >
>> >> > If you have ideas of other commonly made errors, please let us
>> know!
>> >> >
>> >> > Best regards,
>> >> > Vesa-Matti
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>>
>> >> Ina Schieferdecker
>> >> Fraunhofer FOKUS email:
>>
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>> >>
>>
>> >
>> >
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>
>
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