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TOPIC: Real-Time tests in TTCN-3

Real-Time tests in TTCN-3 08 Dec 2004 14:32 #6774

Hello,

Is there any ongoing activity for supporting real-time tests in TTCN-3?


Best regards,

Stefan Karlsson
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Real-Time tests in TTCN-3 09 Dec 2004 09:19 #6778

Well, I guess there could be. What is your specific need, anyway?

Regards,
Christian

Stefan Karlsson wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Is there any ongoing activity for supporting real-time tests in TTCN-3?
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stefan Karlsson
>

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Real-Time tests in TTCN-3 09 Dec 2004 11:03 #6779

I need to be able to measure the "real" time a bus message got
transmitted/received. In TTCN-3 today one can only know the time in
which a message was inserted in (or removed from) a port queue.

Of course, one can manually inspect the log files, but in my opinion
TTCN-3 should be able to handle this intrinsically. If this could be
achieved I think the language would be embraced in many new areas (such
as the automotive industry).


Regards,

Stefan Karlsson

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Well, I guess there could be. What is your specific need,
anyway?

Regards,
Christian

Stefan Karlsson wrote:


Hello,

Is there any ongoing activity for supporting real-time
tests in TTCN-3?


Best regards,

Stefan Karlsson


--
Christian Achilli
SPAZIO 01 S.p.A
c/o Siemens Mobile Communications S.p.A.
COM PG RA ED A6
Call Processing Test Design
Palazzo Gorki, corpo C, piano 3
via Monfalcone, 1
20092, Cinisello Balsamo (MI) - ITALY
You can't claim to know anything if you can't
explain that to your Granny. (A. Einstein)
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Real-Time tests in TTCN-3 09 Dec 2004 11:44 #6780

Hi,
Me to agree with this.
As a simple measure, right now for our performance testing we are time stamping
the send operation with external C function, uses gettimeofday().


Br..
gbr


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I need to be able to measure the "real" time a bus message got
transmitted/received. In TTCN-3 today one can only know the time in which a
message was inserted in (or removed from) a port queue.

Of course, one can manually inspect the log files, but in my opinion TTCN-3
should be able to handle this intrinsically. If this could be achieved I think
the language would be embraced in many new areas (such as the automotive
industry).


Regards,

Stefan Karlsson

Original Message
From: Christian Achilli [This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.]
Sent: den 9 december 2004 10:19
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Subject: Re: Real-Time tests in TTCN-3


Well, I guess there could be. What is your specific need, anyway?

Regards,
Christian

Stefan Karlsson wrote:


Hello,

Is there any ongoing activity for supporting real-time tests in TTCN-3?


Best regards,

Stefan Karlsson


--

Christian Achilli

SPAZIO 01 S.p.A

c/o Siemens Mobile Communications S.p.A.

COM PG RA ED A6

Call Processing Test Design

Palazzo Gorki, corpo C, piano 3

via Monfalcone, 1

20092, Cinisello Balsamo (MI) - ITALY


You can't claim to know anything if you can't

explain that to your Granny. (A. Einstein)

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Real-Time tests in TTCN-3 10 Dec 2004 11:52 #6783

Hi Mr. Karlsson,

We have been investigating the use of TTCN-3 in automotive testing.

The biggest obstacle in TTCN-3 is indeed the lack of standardized and
"comfortable" ways for testing real-time requirements. The problem can also
be seen from a more general view. Since TTCN-3 has primarily been designed
for testing of telecommunication systems, it handles single discrete events
conveniently. However, the time characteristics of discretized, continuously
sent values (signals) can not easily be tested with respect to their time
behavior.

We would also be interested to hear if there any recent advances to extend
TTCN-3 to solve this issue.


Best regards,

Dipl.-Ing. Stefan Hendrata
Entwicklung / Development

Carmeq GmbH
Carnotstr. 4
D-10587 Berlin

Fon +49.30.3983 537-119
Fax +49.30.3983 537-199
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I need to be able to measure the "real" time a bus message got
transmitted/received. In TTCN-3 today one can only know the time in which a
message was inserted in (or removed from) a port queue.

Of course, one can manually inspect the log files, but in my opinion TTCN-3
should be able to handle this intrinsically. If this could be achieved I
think the language would be embraced in many new areas (such as the
automotive industry).


Regards,

Stefan Karlsson

Original Message
From: Christian Achilli [This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.]
Sent: den 9 december 2004 10:19
To: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Subject: Re: Real-Time tests in TTCN-3


Well, I guess there could be. What is your specific need, anyway?

Regards,
Christian

Stefan Karlsson wrote:


Hello,

Is there any ongoing activity for supporting real-time tests in TTCN-3?


Best regards,

Stefan Karlsson


--

Christian Achilli

SPAZIO 01 S.p.A

c/o Siemens Mobile Communications S.p.A.

COM PG RA ED A6

Call Processing Test Design

Palazzo Gorki, corpo C, piano 3

via Monfalcone, 1

20092, Cinisello Balsamo (MI) - ITALY


You can't claim to know anything if you can't

explain that to your Granny. (A. Einstein)

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Real-Time tests in TTCN-3 10 Dec 2004 16:25 #6785

Hi,

The ETSI TTCN-3 maintenance team has been looking at real time TTCN-3. Either Gyorgy or Jens can give more details of where we are on that issue. I know they are both very busy at this time, so a reply may be a bit slow in coming.

I do not recollect that continuous signals were discussed (but I have not followed developments too closely for the past few months so I could be mistaken). ETSI has a strong interest in moving TTCN-3 into automotive testing. If there is a real user need for this feature then we should consider updating the standard accordingly. As always, things will happen quicker if there are concrete suggestions to move the work forward.

For your information the ETSI Board has approved funding to continue TTCN-3 maintenance in 2005 (approx. 2 man-months).

Regards,
Anthony Wiles


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Subject: AW: Real-Time tests in TTCN-3


Hi Mr. Karlsson,

We have been investigating the use of TTCN-3 in automotive testing.

The biggest obstacle in TTCN-3 is indeed the lack of standardized and "comfortable" ways for testing real-time requirements. The problem can also be seen from a more general view. Since TTCN-3 has primarily been designed for testing of telecommunication systems, it handles single discrete events conveniently. However, the time characteristics of discretized, continuously sent values (signals) can not easily be tested with respect to their time behavior.

We would also be interested to hear if there any recent advances to extend TTCN-3 to solve this issue.


Best regards,

Dipl.-Ing. Stefan Hendrata
Entwicklung / Development

Carmeq GmbH
Carnotstr. 4
D-10587 Berlin

Fon +49.30.3983 537-119
Fax +49.30.3983 537-199
E-Mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

Internet: www.carmeq.com <www.carmeq.com/>

Ursprüngliche Nachricht
Von: Stefan Karlsson
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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. Dezember 2004 12:03
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Betreff: Re: Real-Time tests in TTCN-3


I need to be able to measure the "real" time a bus message got transmitted/received. In TTCN-3 today one can only know the time in which a message was inserted in (or removed from) a port queue.

Of course, one can manually inspect the log files, but in my
opinion TTCN-3 should be able to handle this intrinsically. If this could be achieved I think the language would be embraced in many new areas (such as the automotive industry).


Regards,

Stefan Karlsson

Original Message
From: Christian Achilli
[This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.]
Sent: den 9 december 2004 10:19
To: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Subject: Re: Real-Time tests in TTCN-3


Well, I guess there could be. What is your specific
need, anyway?

Regards,
Christian

Stefan Karlsson wrote:


Hello,

Is there any ongoing activity for supporting
real-time tests in TTCN-3?


Best regards,

Stefan Karlsson


--
Christian Achilli
SPAZIO 01 S.p.A
c/o Siemens Mobile Communications S.p.A.
COM PG RA ED A6
Call Processing Test Design
Palazzo Gorki, corpo C, piano 3
via Monfalcone, 1
20092, Cinisello Balsamo (MI) - ITALY
You can't claim to know anything if you can't
explain that to your Granny. (A. Einstein)
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